Is Age Bias a Problem for Encore Careerists?
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The results of our survey last month on ageism in the workplace are in, and there are more than a few surprises. Survey takers gave strong feedback about whether they would alter their resume and appearance. They defined very clearly what matters – and what doesn’t – in their encore career. Most important, they explained why they want one.
Is there age bias in the job market? The answer most respondents gave was an resounding “yes.” They also offered ideas for counteracting it.
Fifty-five percent of the 671 individuals who took the survey were between the ages of 55 and 64, and another 27 percent were in the adjacent age categories of 50 to 54 and 65 to 69. Two-thirds were female.
Asked if they would be willing to remove early job experiences in order to land a job, an overwhelming 81 percent said “yes.” More than 72 percent would delete their college graduation date, and 58 percent would dye their hair. A mere 21 percent would lie about their age, and less than 15 percent would get Botox treatments to hide wrinkles.
Asked to rate how important certain factors were in their encore career plans, nearly 87 percent said “an employer who considers my age an asset because of my proven reliability and judgment” was “vitally important” or “would influence my decision.” Eighty-two percent of survey takers also checked those two top boxes for “a job that utilizes my lifetime of skills and experience” and “an intergenerational work environment in which younger and older workers respect each others’ strengths.” And more than 77 percent indicated a strong preference in the two top fields for “an employer who understands my aspiration for work with a social purpose.”
Here’s a surprise: The largest number (46 percent) checked the “nice but not necessary” category of “a position that matches or exceeds my peak salary and benefits.” Another 11 percent found that requirement “not important.”
Does ageism exist? Survey respondents gave many examples of age bias in the hiring process. One wrote, “Two replies to 8,500 resumes with my good background. What else could it be?”
A common occurrence was getting the green light during a phone interview, then watching the interviewer’s face fall when the applicant arrived for an in-person meeting. “No one called until I took the dates off my resume. Then, their eyes grew wide when I met with them, making their surprise hard to miss,” reported one person.
Applicants told of interviewers using telltale phrases such as seeking someone who was “the right fit” or “fit the culture,” and rejecting them as “overqualified” or “too experienced.” Some were asked questions about their stamina and plans for retirement.
Respondents reported that one common practice is asking applicants the date they graduated from high school. Another way of trying to elicit an applicant’s age was asking if the applicant knew a person at their college who attended during a certain time frame. Some were asked their age point-blank.
An older applicant with a doctorate degree was told he needed “a better color job” on his hair. Another applicant reported that a prospective employer asked “why I wanted to work at such an old age, saying, ‘You know, at our age we get aches and pains.’ I said, ‘No, how old are you?’ and he said, ’46.’ I was 62 at the time. Not funny.”
The way it was. Wrote one person, “I am no longer seen as an ‘up and comer.’ I’m not used to this. I’ve been sort of sidelined, and it’s not about the quality of my work or my energy level either. It’s just age.”
“I can out-work most of the people far younger than myself and certainly have far more experience, but I still worry that someone younger will be chosen because they have more working years left in them,” said another.
Older workers told of being excluded from professional development opportunities and watching employers downgrade and eliminate jobs of those over 50. Some have joined class-action lawsuits.
“I work in local public health, and there has been a trend to replace older workers with younger (mostly female) employees. In most cases you are required to train your replacement if you want to buy yourself enough time to transition out with an amount of dignity,” commented one survey taker.
Respondents described the heartbreak of wanting to give back but having no takers. One offered “25+ years of being a successful entrepreneur who still wants to work and download a lifetime’s knowledge and experience to someone who could use it to help himself, if not others, too.”
Wrote another: “Instead of asking us to fit the boring, unimaginative, bureaucratic jobs that already exist, ask us to design jobs that would be meaningful to us, and that we think would be meaningful to others. Give us a chance to do MORE than we have already done, not less.”
Another suggested creating an “Encore Careers” division within employment agencies that would promote the strengths of mature, responsible and accountable employees.
Tactics for landing a job. What do older applicants do to improve their chances of being hired? In addition to dying their hair and updating their wardrobes, some recommended getting a facelift, having age spots removed, getting teeth whitened, adding a hairpiece, taking “energy pills” and removing the handicapped placard from their car. “Never talk about children and how old they are,” warned one person.
More ideas: exercise, lose weight, get up to date on technology, read current magazines and get another degree.
Some said they improved their appearance for themselves, not prospective employers. Others said they refused to alter their appearance. “I do not want to work for someone who does not want to hire me,” said one. Commented another, “Like Popeye the Sailor Man, I am what I am.”
A better way. Survey takers offered hundreds of ideas for reducing ageism in the job market. Many suggested encouraging employers to hold sessions on the value of an intergenerational work culture. Some recommended an all-out advertising campaign to promote the benefits of hiring experienced workers. They called for positive role models of mature Americans on television and in movies.
Other survey respondents recommended a punitive approach. “Make discrimination according to age a felony,” one person said. “Start fining employers on the questions asked on applications,” another suggested. “Target the companies that don’t hire older Americans and picket them as well as hit them in the pocketbook,” said yet another. “Vote out any politician, young or old, that blatantly ignores the needs of an ever-growing population of older Americans.”
Age is an asset, many pointed out, because mature workers are reliable, punctual and know the importance of finished what they start. They don’t take as many sick days and they don’t have child care issues. Some are willing to sacrifice compensation for the privilege of working flexible hours. “Employers should give experience of life just as much importance as education and job experience,” noted one survey taker
Many called for a national change of attitude in our youth-obsessed culture. “Two hundred years ago African Americans weren’t thought of as people, but property, and we now have an African American president. The same has to be true about ageism, especially as boomers age,” wrote one person.
A personal attitude adjustment can also be helpful, some said. “I don’t view younger workers as competition but rather as complementing my skills and experiences. They too have skills and experiences and qualities from which I can learn,” wrote one person.
Overall, said one person, “There needs to be recognition of the impacts of billions of dollars spent on positioning younger people as the most valued, and the same type of tactics and dollars need to go into making the country as a whole aware of the value of ALL workers and that, as a country, we can no longer afford to waste the minds and talents of our own people when they turn 40.”
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Turning age into an asset
“If you have an expectation that there will be age bias, you will probably find it,” says Marci Alboher in a Wall Street Journal piece by Andrea Coombs titled “Years Can Be Asset in Job Hunt.”
Alboher, a senior fellow with Civic Ventures, recommends confronting negative assumptions head-on. For example, during an interview, she suggests demonstrating your expertise with technology by talking about some of the latest Web tools.
The article also suggests:
Do courts take age discrimination seriously?
In a guest editorial in the November 6 edition of The New York Times, Adam Cohen describes a vending machine workers and two supervisors at a light bulb company who sued when they were replaced by younger workers but lost in federal court for reasons that defied reason.
“Age discrimination is illegal,” he writes. “But when compared with discrimination against racial minorities and women, it is a second-class civil rights issue. The Supreme Court drove its inferiority home again in June of this year, ruling that older workers must show that age was the decisive factor in their firing — not merely a contributing factor, which can be enough for a race or sex claim.”
And now, Cohen continues, “Congress is considering overturning the ruling. It should do so. It is particularly important in the current downturn, with age discrimination complaints soaring. But the problem is larger than any one legal standard.”
Read his guest editorial here.
IS AGE BIAS A PROBLEM?
Of course it is (I was the prime example in a recent article on the same subject on Encore.org). But so is youth bias. And worker bias. And, in our “hearts of hearts”, racial, religious, financial, political and ethnic bias.
If you are young and just coming out of even the best and most prestigious schools, there are practically no jobs. If you are young with only minimal education, ditto. If you are an experienced person of “middle years”, unless you are a bonus-expectant banker in one of the bailed out Wall Street firms, there are no jobs. If you are an industrial worker, there is hardly any industry any more in America. If you are beyond the middle years, it gets worse, if there is such a thing as “worse”. The older you get, the more you are over-experienced, over-qualified, too expensive to hire regardless of what you are willing to accept as pay, too old-fashioned, too set in your ways and too depressingly old-looking to get hired.
If you are very rich, regardless of how these riches were acquired, you can loaf or keep busy, at your choice. If you are rich and a CEO in a big corporation, you hang in there and hope for the best, that the stockholders won’t notice how ineffective you have been at your seven- or eight-figure salary. If you are the owner of a small business, you try to hang on and hope things will turn around, perhaps in your lifetime.
If you are not rich, or only a little, you have to worry about how your nest-egg or property deminished in value, how long your savings can last without replenishing. If you are poor, you have practically no way to cope. No paycheck, no lifeline, there is nothing to fall back on.
So we are all, or almost all, with slight variations, in the same boat. Do we look to government for help? Democrats do, Republicans don’t. Do we look to the so-called free market? Republicans do, Democrats don’t. Do we look to a higher power? For consolation perhaps, for concrete results, hardly.
The facts are stark – if 70% of the American economy was the result of consumer spending, how fast can the economy rebound in the absence of most of that? In the absense of good, well-paying jobs, with a reasonable expectation of financial and job security, and reasonable confidence in the future, consumers can’t to go back to spending ourselves out of the recession. The financial industry problems have been and will be addressed successfully. A handful of the largest industries will survive, after getting their own bail-outs, albeit not without huge labor force and dealer network reductions. New green industries in their infancy, such as windmills and solar panels, are already being impacted by Chinese imports, who ship their goods with government subsidies at prices below cost, to “gain market share”, a synonym for putting our guys out of business. How much of a “service economy” does that leave us, as an engine of jobs?
In my lifetime, I survived World War II while most of my family did not. Most of our neighbors, friends, and others did not. Those who survived had to be enterprising, clever, courageous and in the final analysis, lucky. The exactly right place at the exactly right time, and then the courage to grab the opportunity to escape. In today’s economy, the same principles apply. Whether young, old or in-between, if you need that paycheck, you have to be imaginative, enterprising, flexible, courageous, and lucky – and keep on trying.
Experience vs. Age Discrimination
I think when I was younger I feared discrimination because I was young and perceived to have no experience. Who knew that when I got older I would fear that experience would be undervalued because others did not understand my experience enough to value it.
How to deal with age discrimination
U.S. News & World Report reports that workers filed far more complaints of unfair dismissal due to age bias during 2008 – a total of 24,582, the highest level documented in 12 years and 5,479 more than during 2007. Reporter Emily Brandon offers tips for dealing with age discrimination, including proving that you can be as flexible and energetic as younger workers and collecting evidence that proves you were performing at least as equally as other employees when you were laid off.
Read “6 Tips for Dealing With Age Discrimination.”
"Elephant in room"
Ageism is indeed a problem.It is nice to hear that some seeking encore careers are finding them, but to date I have failed to hit “pay dirt.“I have only recently begun to suspect it is a problem since colleagues of mine have mentioned it. And the volunteer thing gets old. Is it wrong to expect to get paid once you’re past a certain age? Something’s got to be done;far too many of us have skills that are going begging while we continue to feel useless and unneeded.
The elephant in the room
Well this is great. We are finally talking about the elephant in the room. I got to the point where I could not read any more of the happy, feel good stories Encore was sending me. Talking about agism and working on a national action plan is what should come next. Volunteerism is great, but come on. There is a need and a right to just compensation.